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	<title>Comments on: The tyranny of &#8220;stuff&#8221;</title>
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	<description>Live simple.  Live happy.</description>
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		<title>By: Thomas R</title>
		<link>http://theartofzenliving.com/2008/04/the-tyranny-of-stuff/#comment-317</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 13:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over the years I have bought many books two or three times because I had thrown or given away old copies. I have also thrown away old photographs.

I didn't realise why I had been doing this this until recently: it was partly about simplifying my living space, but also an attempt to disidentify myself from my possessions and my lifestory.

If disidentification is your main motive in de-stuffing it's important to realise that this can be achieved without physically disposing of the stuff in question. Good luck in dealing with your burden :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the years I have bought many books two or three times because I had thrown or given away old copies. I have also thrown away old photographs.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t realise why I had been doing this this until recently: it was partly about simplifying my living space, but also an attempt to disidentify myself from my possessions and my lifestory.</p>
<p>If disidentification is your main motive in de-stuffing it&#8217;s important to realise that this can be achieved without physically disposing of the stuff in question. Good luck in dealing with your burden :-)</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://theartofzenliving.com/2008/04/the-tyranny-of-stuff/#comment-303</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Desire is a trap that make willing slaves of free people.</description>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://theartofzenliving.com/2008/04/the-tyranny-of-stuff/#comment-302</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good information and valuable perspectives.

America is NOT the only country on the planet that engages in the acquisition of stuff. 

It's now become a disease that can be attributed to any country that is able to acquire.

I prefer to call it "crap", because realistically, when you look at all the crap the world produces for the edification and emotional benefit of those that can afford it when there are people who starve on a daily basis, we should be ashamed at the shallow nature of our existence when we behave this way.

I'm no different and by no means immune to the allure of the materialistic influence of the type of society we live in. 
I have "crap" but  reading posts like this; together with an awareness of all of the other things we could do with the money, then perhaps we could benefit others instead. This post increases my awareness and resolve to cure myself of the disease.

Maybe we can ask the 3 questions posited above in this format , BEFORE we buy crap

1) Will I use it at least once a month? (Be brutally honest)
2) Would it be irreplaceable? (Do I REALLY need it?)
3) Is there another way to do what this item does that doesn't involve buying crap? (Are we just being lazy and is it REALLY that useful?)

and then assigning the money we were going to spend for more charitable purposes. 

That way (at least in Australia) we could take the tax benefit from contributions to charity and reduce the impact on the environment  by reducing demand for more crap.

It may eventually end up as land fill anyway.

Be more aware of what we do and the attainment of a clear conscience may be in reach of us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good information and valuable perspectives.</p>
<p>America is NOT the only country on the planet that engages in the acquisition of stuff. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s now become a disease that can be attributed to any country that is able to acquire.</p>
<p>I prefer to call it &#8220;crap&#8221;, because realistically, when you look at all the crap the world produces for the edification and emotional benefit of those that can afford it when there are people who starve on a daily basis, we should be ashamed at the shallow nature of our existence when we behave this way.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no different and by no means immune to the allure of the materialistic influence of the type of society we live in.<br />
I have &#8220;crap&#8221; but  reading posts like this; together with an awareness of all of the other things we could do with the money, then perhaps we could benefit others instead. This post increases my awareness and resolve to cure myself of the disease.</p>
<p>Maybe we can ask the 3 questions posited above in this format , BEFORE we buy crap</p>
<p>1) Will I use it at least once a month? (Be brutally honest)<br />
2) Would it be irreplaceable? (Do I REALLY need it?)<br />
3) Is there another way to do what this item does that doesn&#8217;t involve buying crap? (Are we just being lazy and is it REALLY that useful?)</p>
<p>and then assigning the money we were going to spend for more charitable purposes. </p>
<p>That way (at least in Australia) we could take the tax benefit from contributions to charity and reduce the impact on the environment  by reducing demand for more crap.</p>
<p>It may eventually end up as land fill anyway.</p>
<p>Be more aware of what we do and the attainment of a clear conscience may be in reach of us all.</p>
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		<title>By: Eva</title>
		<link>http://theartofzenliving.com/2008/04/the-tyranny-of-stuff/#comment-301</link>
		<dc:creator>Eva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things and looks is often used because of its seductive surface to improve ones chances, position, status. 
Like the colourful feathers of  the peacock to get the chance bringing the DNA of ones own further on. I don´t think we can get rid of that function, because we need it just as much as other living creatures, but perhaps become more aware of what and how we behave towards each other? What is reasonable and fair for me to trade or consume? What are the consequenses of my way of life?
True about desire MoJo! The stuff goes but how to deal with desire? The problem still isn´t solved.
Also interesting comment from Marco Lalama that stuff is one of the parameters that people value each other by. How to overcome or moderate? Are there any alternative strategies out there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things and looks is often used because of its seductive surface to improve ones chances, position, status.<br />
Like the colourful feathers of  the peacock to get the chance bringing the DNA of ones own further on. I don´t think we can get rid of that function, because we need it just as much as other living creatures, but perhaps become more aware of what and how we behave towards each other? What is reasonable and fair for me to trade or consume? What are the consequenses of my way of life?<br />
True about desire MoJo! The stuff goes but how to deal with desire? The problem still isn´t solved.<br />
Also interesting comment from Marco Lalama that stuff is one of the parameters that people value each other by. How to overcome or moderate? Are there any alternative strategies out there?</p>
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		<title>By: subrashankar</title>
		<link>http://theartofzenliving.com/2008/04/the-tyranny-of-stuff/#comment-296</link>
		<dc:creator>subrashankar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Living is an art and living well should be artistic.We have a collection of crystals and artifacts that were gathered as we traveled. These are kept in good shape and need constant cleaning and care.There are other items that are hardly used or even looked at but yet they stay.I wonder if we have some DNA of squirrel in us that compulsively gets the hoarder in us.I know of people who keep things they used in their childhood and stacks of clothes from times of yore.It is important to detach and get rid of useless gadgets and stuff.Another major issue is disposal of electronic items that might add to toxic and hard to recycle waste that gets generated just being obsolete. It is a tough situation and developing countries with faster pace of economic growth might create more waste than all of the 
west put together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Living is an art and living well should be artistic.We have a collection of crystals and artifacts that were gathered as we traveled. These are kept in good shape and need constant cleaning and care.There are other items that are hardly used or even looked at but yet they stay.I wonder if we have some DNA of squirrel in us that compulsively gets the hoarder in us.I know of people who keep things they used in their childhood and stacks of clothes from times of yore.It is important to detach and get rid of useless gadgets and stuff.Another major issue is disposal of electronic items that might add to toxic and hard to recycle waste that gets generated just being obsolete. It is a tough situation and developing countries with faster pace of economic growth might create more waste than all of the<br />
west put together.</p>
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		<title>By: zwenkwiel</title>
		<link>http://theartofzenliving.com/2008/04/the-tyranny-of-stuff/#comment-295</link>
		<dc:creator>zwenkwiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just start out with little stuff and replace as you go along
i could fit everything I need into a suitcase (ok a big suitcase but still)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just start out with little stuff and replace as you go along<br />
i could fit everything I need into a suitcase (ok a big suitcase but still)</p>
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		<title>By: Marco Lalama</title>
		<link>http://theartofzenliving.com/2008/04/the-tyranny-of-stuff/#comment-292</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco Lalama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting to read this article and the comments it has produced. 

I am from Quito, Ecuador, middle high class. I've lived in different parts of the United States during for many of the last 17 years of my life. I am 35 and living in my hometown since 2004. I am married and have two kids, aged 3 and 1. I hold degrees from American Universities.

I believe that the main question is whether your stuff is your master or your servant. I agree on that point with the article. However, I cannot imagine parting with my precious belongings and living the Budda way. I am atracted to valuable stuff, as I see a lot of value on, say, a fine luxury watch.  (I would never, never purchase a Movado, Tag Heuer or Bulgari; but Breguet, Patek Phillipe and Omega are on my wishlist)

I don't think I own more things than I need. I have few, good quality clothing pieces. I have a few, good quality pairs of shoes. I make a point to get rid of stuff I do not use. And I make a point of enjoying my stuff as well as my few invaluable social relationships.

I think that the modern craving for useless stuff is a replacement for lack social interaction. Too much isolation in our modern lives leaves us with an emotional gap that tends to be filled by shopping for stuff.

However, many times, when we interact with each other, the first manner in which we relate to each other is more about what we own than who we are. I find this true in every society I've lived, industrialized or underdeveloped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting to read this article and the comments it has produced. </p>
<p>I am from Quito, Ecuador, middle high class. I&#8217;ve lived in different parts of the United States during for many of the last 17 years of my life. I am 35 and living in my hometown since 2004. I am married and have two kids, aged 3 and 1. I hold degrees from American Universities.</p>
<p>I believe that the main question is whether your stuff is your master or your servant. I agree on that point with the article. However, I cannot imagine parting with my precious belongings and living the Budda way. I am atracted to valuable stuff, as I see a lot of value on, say, a fine luxury watch.  (I would never, never purchase a Movado, Tag Heuer or Bulgari; but Breguet, Patek Phillipe and Omega are on my wishlist)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I own more things than I need. I have few, good quality clothing pieces. I have a few, good quality pairs of shoes. I make a point to get rid of stuff I do not use. And I make a point of enjoying my stuff as well as my few invaluable social relationships.</p>
<p>I think that the modern craving for useless stuff is a replacement for lack social interaction. Too much isolation in our modern lives leaves us with an emotional gap that tends to be filled by shopping for stuff.</p>
<p>However, many times, when we interact with each other, the first manner in which we relate to each other is more about what we own than who we are. I find this true in every society I&#8217;ve lived, industrialized or underdeveloped.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Bunny</title>
		<link>http://theartofzenliving.com/2008/04/the-tyranny-of-stuff/#comment-288</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Bunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How very timely. I am about to move from Massachusetts to Oregon, and am winnowing all I own down to what will fit in my car (2001 Camry Solara). I find myself throwing out stuff I have carried around for 20 years or more.  Now I think even a one bedroom apartment is a lot more than I need. It's awesomely liberating to make the shift to non-attachment. I now get rid of things which a few years ago I would never have dreamed of parting with. It's just stuff: when you come right down to it you don't need much. Think of how Prince Sidhartha left the palace, walked into the forest and shucked absolutely everything, the first great lesson from the life of the Buddha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How very timely. I am about to move from Massachusetts to Oregon, and am winnowing all I own down to what will fit in my car (2001 Camry Solara). I find myself throwing out stuff I have carried around for 20 years or more.  Now I think even a one bedroom apartment is a lot more than I need. It&#8217;s awesomely liberating to make the shift to non-attachment. I now get rid of things which a few years ago I would never have dreamed of parting with. It&#8217;s just stuff: when you come right down to it you don&#8217;t need much. Think of how Prince Sidhartha left the palace, walked into the forest and shucked absolutely everything, the first great lesson from the life of the Buddha.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://theartofzenliving.com/2008/04/the-tyranny-of-stuff/#comment-284</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may like to check out the late great George Carlin's take on the tyranny of stuff here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvgN5gCuLac</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may like to check out the late great George Carlin&#8217;s take on the tyranny of stuff here&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvgN5gCuLac" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvgN5gCuLac</a></p>
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		<title>By: Doug Gilmour</title>
		<link>http://theartofzenliving.com/2008/04/the-tyranny-of-stuff/#comment-283</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Gilmour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I greatly appreciate this collection of shared thoughts. I am about to embark on what feels like a nearly overwhelming task. That is to open up and let go of stuff that fills five 20 x 10 storage units. I made an initial effort, emptying out two units and giving just about all of it to a Haitian couple that had, for years, sent containers of goods to Haiti to be donated to those in need. Anyone who wishes to offer up a note of encouragement ... thank you in advance. And if anyone knows of an efficient way to dispose of misc. items, I'd be grateful to hear those thoughts as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I greatly appreciate this collection of shared thoughts. I am about to embark on what feels like a nearly overwhelming task. That is to open up and let go of stuff that fills five 20 x 10 storage units. I made an initial effort, emptying out two units and giving just about all of it to a Haitian couple that had, for years, sent containers of goods to Haiti to be donated to those in need. Anyone who wishes to offer up a note of encouragement &#8230; thank you in advance. And if anyone knows of an efficient way to dispose of misc. items, I&#8217;d be grateful to hear those thoughts as well.</p>
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